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Iain
Drenched
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 Posted - 04 Feb 2010 : 8:30:56 PM
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I think the answer is no-one knows how fast these things will go. The crews have been been finding their feet gently with these boats...bear in mind that BMWOR only got thier wing up for the first time a few weeks ago.
An ORMA60 will very easily see 30 knots, and it's 30' shorter, 30' narrower, and with significantly less power then Dogzilla. Put it like this, if they get it wrong, it's going to be very, very expensive. And great viewing!
My money's on Dogzilla (BMWOR). They seem more technically advanced, and more "sorted". However when the main hull is out of the water, that's a fair bit of aerodynamic drag that Cheesezilla does not have. But Cheesezilla keeps breaking little things, where you get the feeling that if Dogzilla breaks something, it's going to be big. A bit like when they dropped their old rig...
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jamesb
Wet
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Posted - 08 Feb 2010 : 2:25:22 PM
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wow- first day sailing is over... the result = "skunked", abandoned until Wednesday
... glad I didn't bother flying over to see that and it certainly makes me feel slightly less annoyed that yesterday's windguru forecast at Draycote didn't materialise for a spot of windsurfing.
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Richard Le Mare
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tom_vian
Poke It With A Stick
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Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 07:25:35 AM
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Monday Race 1 - postponed and then abandoned due to NO wind
Wednesday Rescheduled Race 1 - postponed due to TOO MUCH wind
Windguru is forecasting 18 - 23 kts today? will they race?
 514 / Ericcson / DesignSource 12ft skiff
Any comments I make are solely my own opinion and do not necessarily bear any relevance to the opinions or decisions made by the Sailing or General Committees.
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tom_vian
Poke It With A Stick
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Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 11:02:14 AM
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Racing abandoned for today!!!!
514 / Ericcson / DesignSource 12ft skiff
Any comments I make are solely my own opinion and do not necessarily bear any relevance to the opinions or decisions made by the Sailing or General Committees.
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stumcb
Damp
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Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 11:08:26 AM
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ohhh the suspense.....
perhaps they should retire to the bar are decide over an exciting game of tiddly winks
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Iain
Drenched
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Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 11:17:11 AM
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What a joke. Bring back the good old days, 12 metres in 30 knots. Proper sailing...
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Andrew Blee
Wetter than a very wet thing
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Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 11:19:38 AM
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Andrew Blee
Wetter than a very wet thing
519 Posts |
Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 11:23:47 AM
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Actual measurement at valencia airport is showing 16mph declining to 13mph now (midday Spain time). Those boats must be really fragile.
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Iain
Drenched
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Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 11:25:33 AM
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Paul Cayard was saying the plan was to leave BMWOR's wing up overnight as it was safer than trying to get it down in breeze. Much as I would love to see these things race and race properly (fat chance) there's a teeny weeny bit of me that would like to see BMWOR dismasted overnight, so they can all just pack up, go home, and ponder on what a biblical waste of money and effort the whole thing has been, and let common sense prevail with some proper racing in proper classes moving forward which everyone can play in. There's something almost vulgar about the level of billionaires willy waving going on with this in the current climate.
To me, this is no different to allowing a 49er and an I14 (only) to have a best of 3 match race at Draycote. Depending on how windy it is, will depend on which one wins. Assuming no breakages, that is...
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Mikey 14778
Poke It With A Stick
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Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 12:03:15 PM
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I've always thought it was a bit daft to have sailing boats that couldn't be sailed in at least the majority of common windstrengths. Sure, everything is going to struggle a bit in winds over 30 knots, but we don't get those very often (at least, not in this country, inland).
Given that the AC boats were designed for the sea, where it's always a bit windier than elsewhere, they should be good for up to 35 knots. Clearly they aren't. All of which further devalues the whole race (if that's possible), we're no longer talking about the fastest boats in the world, now it's just the fastest in certain windstrengths.
I say send them out there regardless and we'll get to watch something interesting. If they don't want to go, they can get scored as DNS like the rest of us do when we bottle it. |
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Iain
Drenched
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stumcb
Damp
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Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 2:07:00 PM
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Originally posted by Paulr
what speed do these boats go? would be amusing to see some kid in an 11' moth sail through to windward
and the winner is.........
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jamesb
Wet
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Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 2:11:05 PM
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Mikey A5 was designed for Lake Geneva, the following legal wrangling ensured it had to be an ocean venue- I've been to LG several times visiting friends and customers- it's p*ss poor sailing conditions most of the time, in fact a good friend of mine has a musto skiff out there and says it's cr*p sailing... he's spending more time on over-canvassed racked-out cats in the M2 fleet rather than sailing his own boat. This time of year you go uphill with boards and skis, sailing is a summer only thing there.
...anyway I totally agree that today's decision was a joke. There is nothing wrong with the conditions today- plenty of impartial confirmation of that. The Race Office stink of corruption, or at least coercion, by SNG. Go sailing, win, lose or forefeit by retiring, no one really cares anymore, just get this charade over with so we can get on with a new series... simples.
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tom_vian
Poke It With A Stick
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Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 3:04:29 PM
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yerh but the PRO is paid by SNG. Cause he going to make the right decision for them!
514 / Ericcson / DesignSource 12ft skiff
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