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Jeremy Atkins
Damp
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 Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 1:40:48 PM
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The up to date results for the Solo Winter Series are now accessible from the Solo page on this website: http://www.draycotewater.co.uk/SoloWinter2010.htm
I hope this will create additional interest in the series, although we were getting pretty good turn outs without this!
Our thanks to John Coleman who has run the paper based scoring for the fleet for longer than anyone can remember. He has now hung up his pencil and we enter a new digital experience!
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chris
Poke It With A Stick
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 1:50:53 PM
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Cool, if you need any sailwave help let me know Jeremy.
Chris
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Richard Le Mare
Soaked
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 2:41:53 PM
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Jeremy, can I ask why the discard rate is so high?
This isn't a dig at all I'm just trying to understand the thought process that goes behind it.
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Jeremy Atkins
Damp
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 3:48:04 PM
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Richard
We may have changed to electronic presentation of our results, but we can't change everything over night - most of the fleet is over 50, and us oldies can't cope with change very well!
No, seriously, the Solo fleet has always had a third of the races to count (rounded down to the nearest whole number) and that seems to work for the fleet. It is also what was done for the Club (rather than Fast) Handicap Race last year (admitedly on my suggestion). In 2008, the Club Handicap Race was set at half to count and, I seem to remember, I was the only person who did that many races.
Because of the cleverness of Sailwave, I was able to set this up once for however many races we were going to do in a series (which I think was rather differently to how Chris dealt with the Club Handicap Race last year). This seemed to me the best way to present the results.
I have been very impressed with the flexibility of the Sailwave program, having never used it before Saturday. I was even able to use our peculiar, but I think justifiable, tie break procedure.
I have raised this on the forum before re the Club Handicap race. I think the standard method of, after number of firsts, number of seconds (excluding discards), going to last race is unfair if you are only expecting people to compete in a third (or even half) of the races. It means that the winner could be the one who can turn up on the last day. (On Wednesday evenings last year, Richard Pye and I were tied on points and I beat him because I could leave work early to make the final race and he couldn't!). But I had never managed to beat him in a single race.
We debated this at the Solo AGM. An option was looking at the races when the two tied boats met, but it was felt that this might discourage people to go out when it was not "their conditions". In the end we agreed to extend the number of firsts, number of seconds into the discards, so that attendance over the whole series (rather than just the last race) was encouraged.
Amazingly, I found that Sailwave could cope with this, so I was well pleased (but I may well take up your offer of help Chris).
Another Colinesque post!
Jeremy
PS Given that the Club Handicap Race is attracting more competitive interest, I think it would be worthwhile the Sail Com deciding on the scoring before it starts rather than on the penultimate weekend as this year! I will raise this at the next Fleet Captains Meeting. |
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chris
Poke It With A Stick
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 4:05:20 PM
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Jeremy, how do you mean you set sailwave up once for however many races you were going to do which was different to how i dealt with club handicap race last year? Do you mean the discards?
Agree that the sail comm should look at scoring for the club handicap series before they start. Will make sure its looked at.
Chris
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Richard Le Mare
Soaked
688 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 08:49:24 AM
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Thanks Jeremy, regarding the 3rd Sunday race, this is exactly the reason I was asking.
If we can ensure everyone knows how it's scored then we hopefully will attract more competitors and really build the prestige of this series. Heck there are all ready some very good sailors fighting it out.
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nigelP
Completely dry
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Posted - 30 Jan 2010 : 6:13:44 PM
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Jeremy,
This is really good and shows how competitive things are all the way through the fleet.
Here's hoping for some windy weather.
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Jeremy Atkins
Damp
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Posted - 21 Feb 2010 : 10:26:04 PM
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Congratulations to Nigel Davies for taking the lead in the Solo Winter Series - an impressive performance recently and he's still got to launch his new boat next weekend!
Results can be seen here: http://www.draycotewater.co.uk/SoloWinter2010.htm thanks to Paul Roe.
It is all very close throughout the fleet: 1st to 3rd separated by 4 points, 4th - 6th separated by 5 points and 6th to 10th separated by 6 points. So plenty to play for in the final 4 Sundays of the series. I do hope I will be able to come out and join you all again soon!
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Jeremy Atkins
Damp
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Posted - 03 Mar 2010 : 8:17:36 PM
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Even more congratulations to Nigel Pybus for moving into second place in the Winter Series.
Results can be seen here: http://www.draycotewater.co.uk/SoloWinter2010.htm thanks to Paul Roe.
It is still close with 3 Sundays (6 races) to go - a bunch of three people contesting 1st to 3rd (with one dropping rapidly), a bunch of people contesting 4th to 6th and a bunch competing for 7th - 10th.
You had better get out there and nail the competition (those lucky ones that can!).
Jeremy
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Jeremy Atkins
Damp
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Posted - 07 Mar 2010 : 8:49:38 PM
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Hotting up still further, with only two weekends left. Nigel Davies maintains his lead, but now only with discards.
Robin Warren moves a bit clearer into open space in 4th, Pete McCrea & Lance Evans are vying for 5th & 6th, Mike Partington and Jonathan Hughes for 7th & 8th, and Hamish Brown & Sue McCrea for 9th & 10th.
Still lots more for everyone to do in the final two weekends (and still the biggest fleet on the water by a long way!).
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Jeremy Atkins
Damp
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Posted - 15 Mar 2010 : 1:36:14 PM
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The penultimate weekend of the Winter Series saw the winds blow and, of course, Nigel Pybus came out to play, along with Jon Hughes.
Nigel took this late opportunity to move into the leading slot for the first time in this series, ahead of Nigel Davies on countback. Has he times his final surge just right, or will he just have one week at the top of the leaderboard? The 3 people on the podium have been decided, but which slot they each take will be down to who wins races next weekend. It could hardly be any closer after 36 races!
Elsewhere in the fleet, Robin Warren looks fairly secure in fourth place, although Pete McCrea could win both races next Sunday and knock him down to fifth. Lance Evans could overhaul Pete, but not Robin.
Jonathan Hughes also looks pretty secure in 7th, but could be passed by Mike Partington, who could also be passed by Hamish Brown and Sue McCrea.
So one weekend to go and lots to play for throughout the fleet. It doesn't get much closer than this.
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Jeremy Atkins
Damp
105 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2010 : 10:59:10 AM
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Well I have tried to build a bit more excitement into the Winter series and it certainly came to a brilliant climax on Sunday. A beautifual day, with 16 different Solos racing, which must be a record for March!
Going into the day, the 3 people on the podium for the Series had been decided, but their positions were very much up for grabs and each of them was in the lead at one stage during the day!
Nigel Pybus arrived to sail leading the series, with Nigel Davies second and myself third. In the first race I was lucky enough to lead from the start and so ended up in the leader's spot, with Nigel Pybus second.
So it was all down to the last race: if any of the three of us won, we would win the series. If someone else won, I would. There was a fair bit of chaos on a very biased startline, but Nigel Davies sailed clear to have an impressive lead by the first mark, which he held until the next beat, when Mick Clay overtook and I was rejoicing. It was a bit too early to shorten us as we went through the line, and so we continued to round the start mark where chaos reigned again. There was considerable confusion as to what way to round the mark. Mick Clay rounded it the wrong way and lost his lead. After the long beat, Nigel Pybus had a healthy lead over Nigel Davies, but he slowly reduced the margin on the long run from B to the finish. They finished overlapped and neither knew who had won until the OOD was consulted ashore - Nigel Davies by a matter of inches took the race and the series, and those inches saw Nigel Pybus move back to third overall!
And it wasn't just at the front of the fleet where things were close - the plate trophy (for those who haven't won a race) went to Hamish Brown, just one point ahead of Sue McCrea.
A fantastic way to finish a series which saw the fleet achieve double the turnout of the previous year's Winter Series.
Thank you to all who have taken part and the OODs who have braved the cold and made racing in the Solo so much fun.
Full results: http://www.draycotewater.co.uk/fleets/solo/solowinter2010.htm
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chris
Poke It With A Stick
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Posted - 22 Mar 2010 : 2:30:12 PM
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Jeremy - solo fleet looks to be flourishing. Great to see, and great that it was so close all the way down the results!
How come Mike P missed out on the plate trophy though?
Chris
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Mikey 14778
Poke It With A Stick
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Posted - 22 Mar 2010 : 2:44:19 PM
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There was considerable confusion as to what way to round the mark.
It should have been left to starboard by my reckoning, but the boats I was following all left it to port so I did the same. I can't remember what the start board said about it.
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Jeremy Atkins
Damp
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Posted - 22 Mar 2010 : 4:51:18 PM
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Chris: The plate is a bit more complicated than I said - you aren't included if you have won a race in this or the previous series. The idea is to encourage those who never win races - Mike Partington is a regular race winner, he just hasn't done so in this series, but he would always, to my mind, be classified as an A Fleet competitor.
Mike: Starboard was the "correct" way of rounding it (without a loop) and that is what Mick Clay and I did, but on the race board it said port. Ashley changed the course at the last minute and apologised for not getting the rounding of this mark correct (they accidentally put up the wrong coloured letter). Because of the late change I didn't go through my usual double check of the rounding of each mark and ended up retiring! But I have no complaints - I remember noting that only one mark was a different colour to the others, and I just didn't think through the implications of this!
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NickB
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Posted - 22 Mar 2010 : 4:53:12 PM
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| The start board indicated a port rounding, but I agree that starboard would have made more sense. It was good preparation however for sharing a leeward mark with the W/L fleet when we'll always (I guess) have to round it to port :) |
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Solo Class Joins The 21st Century!
